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-SUMMONER-
03-21-2009, 07:41 AM
Hi i know it might be early but i wanted to have an idea of how jewel drops would be once the server restarts. I nearly prefer the way u cant buy JOL of even bless in store as long as the drops are ok. If souls are kept at a steady rate of drop but not too much then the market reflects it in a good way making trading much more fun. Like last time i thought the soul drop was pretty spot on not too much but still enough.
Also say if jewel of bless arnt available to buy in store i would hope for it to stay that way more long term instead of changing after a couple of weeks. Everyone should have to go through the same hardships whether they start today or in a months time.
Just my opinion anyway
HentaiKing
03-21-2009, 01:50 PM
imo there should be no jewels in stores.
and the drop rate could be lower imo :P just to make it harder and give jewels more value. thus avoiding the market getting so messed up as it usualy becomes after a while.
giving 100 souls for and item is dumb
asking 100 souls for an item is imo just as lame as scamming.
^ just an example
Anywho As far as i know Inc said he would keep the rates the way they were before the wipe just as the exp.
-SUMMONER-
03-21-2009, 01:58 PM
imo there should be no jewels in stores.
and the drop rate could be lower imo :P just to make it harder and give jewels more value. thus avoiding the market getting so messed up as it usualy becomes after a while.
giving 100 souls for and item is dumb
asking 100 souls for an item is imo just as lame as scamming.
^ just an example
Anywho As far as i know Inc said he would keep the rates the way they were before the wipe just as the exp.
Agreed with u. In that way Choas Castle becomes a way in which ppl can acquire jewels and therefore more ppl doing it and more fun. But thanks for the info regarding that.
Cheers
Mr_JD
03-21-2009, 02:14 PM
let jol and job in shop,and make little hard find jog's,joh's jos
HentaiKing
03-21-2009, 02:32 PM
Agreed with u. In that way Choas Castle becomes a way in which ppl can acquire jewels and therefore more ppl doing it and more fun. But thanks for the info regarding that.
Cheers
yup aswell as BC and DS.
they will be done more and so the game will be more challanging. but still Inc remains to his desicion as of yet so we'll just have to wait and see.
also next time :P put this kinda thread in Game Feedback+ suggestions
HOTGAL
03-21-2009, 07:24 PM
OMG this is soo going to effect the game if we can't buy Bless or Lifes because then Life and bless are going to be worth as much as a soul unless they have a higher drop rate.From before the wipe lifes almost never drop and bless never drop.
soo i hope it stays the same :) Bless in stores but Life don;t have to be :)
WANTED
03-21-2009, 07:42 PM
i think JOB must be in shop
and JOC must drop in BC and DS and CC to make it more active ..
JOL+JOS drop in arena with low rate than b4 ..
JOG +JOH drop in Raklion as b4 ..
i think that would be nice ..
before (when i played) life and bless dropped fine for me.. besided the monsters dropping them i would get the bless from the white wizard :P
HOTGAL
03-21-2009, 07:58 PM
before (when i played) life and bless dropped fine for me.. besided the monsters dropping them i would get the bless from the white wizard :P
lol but there is no white wizards in thearena except when white wiz invasion and u inly get 1 bless
Mr_JD
03-21-2009, 08:27 PM
lol but there is no white wizards in thearena except when white wiz invasion and u inly get 1 bless
right,better if jol and job stay in shoop,so new player can make item's +6+28 opt
HentaiKing
03-21-2009, 09:38 PM
i think JOB must be in shop
and JOC must drop in BC and DS and CC to make it more active ..
JOL+JOS drop in arena with low rate than b4 ..
JOG +JOH drop in Raklion as b4 ..
i think that would be nice ..
JOC would have to drop outside of those aswell, otherwise the invites could not be made for BC and DS
Mr_JD
03-21-2009, 10:04 PM
i realy think that job's and maybe maybe jol's should stay in npc shop,not much jol's but let job's in shop,so new player's without rr can make item's +6 and all other jewel with drop from mob's :)
lol but there is no white wizards in thearena except when white wiz invasion and u inly get 1 bless
hehe i know there's no white wizards in arena, so yh i get the bless on the invasion, and there's not only one white wizard :P
HentaiKing
03-21-2009, 11:34 PM
i realy think that job's and maybe maybe jol's should stay in npc shop,not much jol's but let job's in shop,so new player's without rr can make item's +6 and all other jewel with drop from mob's :)
were all new players when teh server starts :S
anywho as i said before so far Inc hasn't told me about changing it the last time he said he was going to keep it mostly the same with a few changes.
WANTED
03-22-2009, 12:01 AM
were all new players when teh server starts :S
anywho as i said before so far Inc hasn't told me about changing it the last time he said he was going to keep it mostly the same with a few changes.
i think we gonna deal with last Jewels system/drop it was good ..
Emperador
03-22-2009, 12:12 AM
i think we gonna deal with last Jewels system/drop it was good ..
Yah That was good, It would also be good to make the event the invation of rabbits, which release many JOS. :D
WANTED
03-22-2009, 12:16 AM
Yah That was good, It would also be good to make the event the invation of rabbits, which release many JOS. :D
^^ i hope too {inc said that all events work well and CS will be soon} / that in main page ..
it's almost a month now so i hope inc find good coders to help him ..
GL
invasion of rabbits? O.o i hadnt heard that before.. is that the even where mobs spawn at the town's exits?
Emperador
03-22-2009, 01:36 AM
invasion of rabbits? O.o i hadnt heard that before.. is that the even where mobs spawn at the town's exits?
No, this was an event that invation if I do not recall bad being in LT, Devias and Atlans the monsters are similar to some bulls.
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 02:19 AM
hehe i know there's no white wizards in arena, so yh i get the bless on the invasion, and there's not only one white wizard :P
ya i know but... there is only 3 wizards (Noria,Devias,and Lorencia) and the only drop one not a like pack of 10 of bless :P
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 02:50 AM
No, this was an event that invation if I do not recall bad being in LT, Devias and Atlans the monsters are similar to some bulls.
Invasion of the white rabbits is usualy a special event such as with halloween i believe.
groups of white rabbits spawn near the Lorencia, Noria and Devias exits with some way too high drops for such easy kills.
ya i know but... there is only 3 wizards (Noria,Devias,and Lorencia) and the only drop one not a like pack of 10 of bless :P
would make it hard tho :P kinda fun if ya ask me XD
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 03:25 AM
would make it hard tho :P kinda fun if ya ask me XD
Well.. it kind of would fun but just image.... Bless would be rare as souls then... and it would affect the system in a way that not cool but at the same time it will cause people to buy bless on the Website so.. w.e ^^.
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 03:44 AM
it would also prevent ppl from having high upgraded equipment early meaning they would need a party to surive in area's with stronger monsters.
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 04:04 AM
it would also prevent ppl from having high upgraded equipment early meaning they would need a party to surive in area's with stronger monsters.
Well... like me i am going to be buy F.O set... so already i am going to have high upgrades.... so... ya.. it really make it harder for the new people who don't have anything.
Mr_JD
03-22-2009, 09:06 AM
i think we gonna deal with last Jewels system/drop it was good ..
no lol,drop of joh's was to hight,i was able to find like 60 in less of 2 hour's...make like 5% drop of joh's
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 09:21 AM
no lol,drop of joh's was to hight,i was able to find like 60 in less of 2 hour's...make like 5% drop of joh's
Well... not 5% cause it hink thats what souls are... i think. like let say souls are 5%...life droping should be like 8-10% and bless should be around 10-15%. But not in every map.. only in like arena or something like that. Well i think everything would be great..
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 01:20 PM
Well... not 5% cause it hink thats what souls are... i think. like let say souls are 5%...life droping should be like 8-10% and bless should be around 10-15%. But not in every map.. only in like arena or something like that. Well i think everything would be great..
every monster has a % of chance of dropping a certain item ( not all monsters can drop jewels )
so that would mean those rates would be the same for all the monsters.
which would mean in every map those monsters are.
to achieve what your talking about would need a massive amount of coding and could probably bug up the server.
SPAWN
03-22-2009, 04:28 PM
well in my own opinion, whatever the drop rates will be as long as the success rates are high, like making items turn to +9 without fail (but lowers the success when turning it to +10-13), will be just fine with me. But if incu will maintain the previous rates, that will be still be cool:cool:
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 07:12 PM
every monster has a % of chance of dropping a certain item ( not all monsters can drop jewels )
so that would mean those rates would be the same for all the monsters.
which would mean in every map those monsters are.
to achieve what your talking about would need a massive amount of coding and could probably bug up the server.
lol thats would be funny if the coding is that bad causing the whole server to crash :P'
But overall i know what you mean, so i guess it would be easyier just to put jewels in shops..
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 07:28 PM
lol thats would be funny if the coding is that bad causing the whole server to crash :P'
But overall i know what you mean, so i guess it would be easyier just to put jewels in shops..
well what i mean is it would take a huge amount of coding. and the slightest mistake in it could cause major bugs which could in turn lead to crashes and other things.
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 07:44 PM
well what i mean is it would take a huge amount of coding. and the slightest mistake in it could cause major bugs which could in turn lead to crashes and other things.
Ya i know what you mean :P Sometime me and some friend take games and try to re-code them, we screw the game up so badly its just like "damn we waste so much time on this and can't even make it run properly".
I hope no bug or errors will happen with the new MU. (Well there is always going to be something wrong :P nothing can ever be perfect)
Emperador
03-22-2009, 08:01 PM
Invasion of the white rabbits is usualy a special event such as with halloween i believe.
groups of white rabbits spawn near the Lorencia, Noria and Devias exits with some way too high drops for such easy kills.
HK. When I was playing on the server with the 2007 rankings, had an invasion that was called "White Rabbits" or something like that, I repeat the monster was like a bull, and released many JOS, I believe you in that time had not begun to play this server.
:D
If you like, ask someone else who has played in that time, and you will to see, what i'm don't liar to you
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 08:30 PM
first of all dont go double posting. last time im warning you aswell
2nd i've bin playing this server since it started so your way wrong.
3th i never called you a liar, all i did was explain what White Rabbit invasion is.
there are 2 invasions with white in their name,
they are the White Rabbit invasion which i already explained and the White Wizard Invasion in which on the maps Lorencia, Noria and Devias a group of White Wizard Corps Orcs and 1 White wizard spawn. The orcs droping zen and wizard rings and the white wizard dropping a Jewel of Bless.
Emperador
03-22-2009, 08:36 PM
1.) Afff...Well, like say, if you're the game master "know more than others." It is better to forget this because it may end badly
2.) And never mention that you had called me a liar.
-HellBoy-
03-22-2009, 08:46 PM
since I remenber.invasion rabbit that belonged to fall as Devias, Tarkan LostTower and LostTower7 as the Bulls were not home and Rabbit were to the spot, S Lorencia of which were top lvl:o
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 09:09 PM
If i recall i remember the rabbits dropped zen or a star. They had a purple glow around them and they were white. i found a picture and it looks AWESOME check it out. Look beside the character and there is a bunny just incase if you have never seen one before.
Mr_JD
03-22-2009, 10:09 PM
If i recall i remember the rabbits dropped zen or a star. They had a purple glow around them and they were white. i found a picture and it looks AWESOME check it out. I wish we had that set to :)
little off topic,that custom item's are ugly,i dont like custom set's
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 10:19 PM
little off topic,that custom item's are ugly,i dont like custom set's
lol if u look beside the character there is a bunny... just wanted some people to know what you guys are talking about. Some people have never seen the bunnies
HentaiKing
03-22-2009, 10:46 PM
1.) Afff...Well, like say, if you're the game master "know more than others." It is better to forget this because it may end badly
2.) And never mention that you had called me a liar.
1 i never said i knew more then others
2nd you actualy did you said:" and you will to see, what i'm don't liar to you "
anywho stop the offtopic now :)
also hotgal im removing your pic so ppl wont get the wrong impression of this server of having things we dont actualy have since Custom Items cause alot of bugs.
HOTGAL
03-22-2009, 10:49 PM
also hotgal im removing your pic so ppl wont get the wrong impression of this server of having things we dont actualy have since Custom Items cause alot of bugs.
Tell me if the picture is better now... just a bunny and something gold :) could be a golden dragon lol
wanime45
03-24-2009, 08:15 AM
1 i never said i knew more then others
2nd you actualy did you said:" and you will to see, what i'm don't liar to you "
anywho stop the offtopic now :)
also hotgal im removing your pic so ppl wont get the wrong impression of this server of having things we dont actualy have since Custom Items cause alot of bugs.
people always get wrong impressions about GM and Admins.... they don't think about them like humans they think about them like some game tools
Mr_JD
03-24-2009, 08:20 AM
1 i never said i knew more then others
2nd you actualy did you said:" and you will to see, what i'm don't liar to you "
anywho stop the offtopic now :)
also hotgal im removing your pic so ppl wont get the wrong impression of this server of having things we dont actualy have since Custom Items cause alot of bugs.
not for make problem but seems that you exept to know more then other's...
however for custom thing's are ugly :D ...for jewel will be perfect like be4 wipe,but just less % drop for joh's and jog's
that's a goo idea i hope incubus do that..
many new player are expecting that the JOB in shop..
like me Im Expecting that JOB in shop because i don't have money
to donate to Incubus..I hope Incubus do that..
Because many Filipino are Playing the IEN here in the Philippines..
HentaiKing
04-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Jewel of Bless being in the shop has nothing to do with donating :S
if their not in the shop they will be worthfull as a trade asset instead of something to make the game that much easier again.
so in other words with JoB out of the shop the market system will have another currency added to it. ( which is handy for the more nooby players since this increases their chances of buying items from others since they have another means of paying)
Sparxx
04-10-2009, 07:38 PM
Give Me All The Jewels. . And Ill Distribute Them As I See Fit =] ^^
HentaiKing
04-10-2009, 08:37 PM
sparxx dont spam
Mr_JD
04-10-2009, 09:08 PM
Jewel of Bless being in the shop has nothing to do with donating :S
if their not in the shop they will be worthfull as a trade asset instead of something to make the game that much easier again.
so in other words with JoB out of the shop the market system will have another currency added to it. ( which is handy for the more nooby players since this increases their chances of buying items from others since they have another means of paying)
you wrong hentai,with this new shop bless will be necessary if someone buy an item +0,i think only bless and life should stay in npc shop
HentaiKing
04-10-2009, 09:27 PM
you wrong hentai,with this new shop bless will be necessary if someone buy an item +0,i think only bless and life should stay in npc shop
its not necessary at all. what your saying will just make things easy way easy.
air thats something thats necessary otherwise we'd all die from the lack of it. jewels in shops are something that make the game easier and actualy discredits the game.
Mr_JD
04-10-2009, 10:41 PM
its not necessary at all. what your saying will just make things easy way easy.
air thats something thats necessary otherwise we'd all die from the lack of it. jewels in shops are something that make the game easier and actualy discredits the game.
well,not realy,dont will so easy with just bless in npc shop,ok let just bless in shop..there will be many other jewel's for buy/sell item's like JOS,JOH,JOG,JOL...and no one asked hard game as i know...jos like always are for sell and buy thing's and let only job in shop...it dont will break game if ppl can will make item's form +0 to +6
HentaiKing
04-10-2009, 11:04 PM
well,not realy,dont will so easy with just bless in npc shop,ok let just bless in shop..there will be many other jewel's for buy/sell item's like JOS,JOH,JOG,JOL...and no one asked hard game as i know...jos like always are for sell and buy thing's and let only job in shop...it dont will break game if ppl can will make item's form +0 to +6
it does and has since the start of private servers.
either way the decision is up to Inc.
But as i said with the Jewel of Bless out of the shop, sure it will be harder to get items to be upgraded but it will give the market a boost. ( both the donation and the normal ingame market ).
Actualy i've bin asking/suggesting a harder game for a long time so your wrong there aswell ;)
and i never said anything about breaking the game O,o
SPAWN
04-11-2009, 06:11 AM
Hi i know it might be early but i wanted to have an idea of how jewel drops would be once the server restarts. I nearly prefer the way u cant buy JOL of even bless in store as long as the drops are ok. If souls are kept at a steady rate of drop but not too much then the market reflects it in a good way making trading much more fun. Like last time i thought the soul drop was pretty spot on not too much but still enough.
Also say if jewel of bless arnt available to buy in store i would hope for it to stay that way more long term instead of changing after a couple of weeks. Everyone should have to go through the same hardships whether they start today or in a months time.
Just my opinion anyway
yeah i agree with you.
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