Magic circle = overpowered

[SPAWN]

first of all congrats to cooles for winning the CS, it was a great fight... well i think the new skill/spell of SM is overpowered. BK's with full agi and vit (with manashield and elf buffs) can be easly killed by SM with one shot just using their magic circle. BK's cant get close because they can kill in a longer distance (while BK's can only kill in a close range).

[Camy]

Are you affraid that the domination of BK has come to end? :)

[dallen]

its overpower :(
1 hit in BK FS in AGI and VIT in almost FO set
SPAWN did you see their stats,
They dont even have points stats in Strength, (maybe some but not more than 5k)
and what more if they max to FS,


hehhehehehhe

[Mr_JD]

this skill was already decreased as i know,however,why bk need always to be best char? for now let thing's so...

[SPAWN]

Are you affraid that the domination of BK has come to end? :)

nope but at least their should be balance with regards to their damage, like wat i have said earlier BK's cant fight in a longer range while SM's can. They can even prevent BK atacks using teleport. And SM doesn't need strength so they can put all their points in agi,vit and ene which they dont need to be in 400 rr to be considered as fullstats. They all have the advantage. unlike BK's who can only fight in close range and needs to be in fullstats just to be strong. If incubus wont decrease the power of magic circle, I suggest at least make BK's fortitude stronger or higher.

[HentaiKing]

hmm i think its bin balanced out alil when i tested it out with a friend of mine it took us the same amount of hits to kill eachother from the same range, ( him sm me elf ). So that will mean BK's will need to come up with some stratagies for a change.

[SPAWN]

this skill was already decreased as i know,however,why bk need always to be best char? for now let thing's so...

let me ask u one thing, are u enjoying fighting BK with just one hit? if you're contended with it, well i guess your not looking for challenge at all.

[SPAWN]

hmm i think its bin balanced out alil when i tested it out with a friend of mine it took us the same amount of hits to kill eachother from the same range, ( him sm me elf ). So that will mean BK's will need to come up with some stratagies for a change.

but the thing is, how can u make strategy if SM can kill u in one hit? you'll die first b4 u can get close to an SM. And were talking about full agi and vit here for bk atacked by full agi and ene of SM.

[Camy]

let me ask u one thing, are u enjoying fighting BK with just one hit? if you're contended with it, well i guess your not looking for challenge at all.

If you put the problem this way let me tell you this: from about 3 years we all are use to be killed by BK in 1 hit lol, :)!!!

[SPAWN]

If you put the problem this way let me tell you this: from about 3 years we all are use to be killed by BK in 1 hit lol, :)!!!

maybe with the elves but not with the SM. I was an SM in old imperial named sayote. And i can kill BK's during that time. then came the wipe, i chosed BK as a character. I cant, kill SM with just one hit like u said. Perhaps ur talking about 1 hit combo. it was only in the last revision i experience 1 hit in SM when it was in 65K stat.

[Sparxx]

SM's Are Not Overpowered.
BK's Just Feel That SM's Have Been Un-Nerfed.

You Need To Get Used To The Fact That BK's Arent The Epic Pwnz0r Anymore.
All Classes Got New Skills, Sm Got Magic Circle, Which Doesnt Even Last That Long So Most Afkers Dnt Use It And As For Fighting . . HK Is Right, Find A Tactic, There Are LOADS Of Way For A BK To Kill A SM Even With Magic Circle.

I Knew This Thread Would Start Eventually, And If Magic Circle Gets Lowered Even More Because BK's Like To QQ Then Thats Pathetic. =]
In The Old Servers I Used To Get Dominated By BK's.
Now SM's Have A Fighting Chance, Also As HK Rightly Said, Other Classes Can Kill A SM, So Why Not BK?

SPAWN: If incubus wont decrease the power of magic circle, I suggest at least make BK's fortitude stronger or higher.


Absolutely Not, That Would Be Favouring BK's, For Years People Have Said Oh BK's Are Best And My BK Would Destroy Your SM Etc Etc.
Stop Moaning That Its Fair For A Change And Deal With It.
Or Better Yet, DONT Start A Fight With A Grand Master xD


- Sparky (Grand Master with Magic Circle :cool:)

[Mr_JD]

If you put the problem this way let me tell you this: from about 3 years we all are use to be killed by BK in 1 hit lol, :)!!!

hehe i wanted so say the same :)

maybe with the elves but not with the SM. I was an SM in old imperial named sayote. And i can kill BK's during that time. then came the wipe, i chosed BK as a character. I cant, kill SM with just one hit like u said. Perhaps ur talking about 1 hit combo. it was only in the last revision i experience 1 hit in SM when it was in 65K stat.

be4 wipe bk was godly and bk was able to kill any char in 1 hit,even with fo,however for now you cant say if is overpowerd or not,because no one bk is full status,with full status you have more hp,sd,defense ecc ecc...and dont forget pink and yellow option...i think an bk fs with pink and yellow option dont will die so easy :)

[Thunder]

If I can say, I think that altering the balance of Personality (Sm-Bk-Elf-Mg-Dl) means that each one loses its characteristics, what I mean? When I think MU Each character is weak to another, give advantage to one person at a disadvantage would be Bring to another (logical). I think there are some rules are not rules advantages and disadvantages could say for example: The elf defeats Mg (Assuming) The Mg defeats DL(Assuming), DL beat the elf(Assuming)(But to be changed and everything changes so I think that there is this confusion). I hope you are understanding, and what is happening is that by adjusting the points to 32,767 and the new power of SM, the bk is virtually left out. I do not have time to play but soon I will start again, thank you very much see them then

Pss pss -> What I mean by change? When you change (or editing) the damage occurred and received, defense and life among other things, alters the balance in MU Created

Thanks .
Thunder.

[Kadaj]

SM's Are Not Overpowered.
BK's Just Feel That SM's Have Been Un-Nerfed.

You Need To Get Used To The Fact That BK's Arent The Epic Pwnz0r Anymore.
All Classes Got New Skills, Sm Got Magic Circle, Which Doesnt Even Last That Long So Most Afkers Dnt Use It And As For Fighting . . HK Is Right, Find A Tactic, There Are LOADS Of Way For A BK To Kill A SM Even With Magic Circle.

I Knew This Thread Would Start Eventually, And If Magic Circle Gets Lowered Even More Because BK's Like To QQ Then Thats Pathetic. =]
In The Old Servers I Used To Get Dominated By BK's.
Now SM's Have A Fighting Chance, Also As HK Rightly Said, Other Classes Can Kill A SM, So Why Not BK?

SPAWN: If incubus wont decrease the power of magic circle, I suggest at least make BK's fortitude stronger or higher.


Absolutely Not, That Would Be Favouring BK's, For Years People Have Said Oh BK's Are Best And My BK Would Destroy Your SM Etc Etc.
Stop Moaning That Its Fair For A Change And Deal With It.
Or Better Yet, DONT Start A Fight With A Grand Master xD


- Sparky (Grand Master with Magic Circle :cool:)


Haha BK's have been knocked 3 places down the foodchain.
Let's not talk about how overpowerd the Magic circle is.
LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW UNDERPOWERD DARK LORD DARK SPIRIT IS X_X
I mean come on seriously..
I spent days doing a quest just so i could use a cape?
I have gained NOTHING but a cape from spending days doing that quest.
Whilst every other class around me is gaining new useful skills like Magic circle. (Which i don't think is Overpowerd at all)
Anyways this should be a topic about how DL dark spirit spell is UNDERPOWERD.
I'm sick of hitting literaly 4-5 times the ammount of dark spirit with just fireburst.
Make our new spell useful!

[LOrDnieTs]

yea right,,all of you right,,except SPAWN,,:D


MC is not overpowered,, it takes only a few seconds,,:D


its just cool SM can defeat BK now,,:)

[Sparxx]

Haha BK's have been knocked 3 places down the foodchain.
Let's not talk about how overpowerd the Magic circle is.
LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW UNDERPOWERD DARK LORD DARK SPIRIT IS X_X
I mean come on seriously..
I spent days doing a quest just so i could use a cape?
I have gained NOTHING but a cape from spending days doing that quest.
Whilst every other class around me is gaining new useful skills like Magic circle. (Which i don't think is Overpowerd at all)
Anyways this should be a topic about how DL dark spirit spell is UNDERPOWERD.
I'm sick of hitting literaly 4-5 times the ammount of dark spirit with just fireburst.
Make our new spell useful!


Very True.
And Dark Lord Is Supposed To Be A Powerful Class, Or Are People Forgeting That Originally You Had To Unlock A Dark, So It Makes Sense That There Season 4 Skill Shud Be Useful =]

[HentaiKing]

If I can say, I think that altering the balance of Personality (Sm-Bk-Elf-Mg-Dl) means that each one loses its characteristics, what I mean? When I think MU Each character is weak to another, give advantage to one person at a disadvantage would be Bring to another (logical). I think there are some rules are not rules advantages and disadvantages could say for example: The elf defeats Mg (Assuming) The Mg defeats DL(Assuming), DL beat the elf(Assuming)(But to be changed and everything changes so I think that there is this confusion). I hope you are understanding, and what is happening is that by adjusting the points to 32,767 and the new power of SM, the bk is virtually left out. I do not have time to play but soon I will start again, thank you very much see them then

Pss pss -> What I mean by change? When you change (or editing) the damage occurred and received, defense and life among other things, alters the balance in MU Created

Thanks .
Thunder.


And not to forget that it being a private server already brought along great changes, since Mu Online was never ment for Resetting and getting more stats then those normaly availble in 350 lvls ( later on 400 lvls)

So basicly all classes are over powered as they were never ment to get higher then lvl 400 ( including the stats that go with it )

Anyway Each char has its playing still its advantages and disadvantages learn to play with your char and it will give you an edge in battle. Sadly enough the game has bin spoiled for a long time with things such as FO items, tweaked skills ( im not meaning just in Imperial im meaning globaly) that ppl have gotten used to overpowered characters instead of the way the game was intended to be played. with wise start point distribution and so on.

Anywho lets just wait what Inc has to say about this.

[darkzard]

dude i know what u mean SPAWN, Aquino was killed by hellangel with 1 hit even with FS ee buff

[SPAWN]

Not only that, 3 of us -chuchai, me and tripplex died at the same time with one hit of Sircapo.

[NICK]

I agree Sm skill is overpowerd, think about it. When stats are at 32k a good player who knows how to use an SM would easily kill a BK. But now they have MC, they can buff themselves, teleport, poison, and other stuff. Bk`s must be in close range to kill another class. How are we suppose to kill an SM if they kill us in 1 hit? No fun at all. And even if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a BK, no chance at all against a SM.

Instead of trying to convince you people, i suggest HK and incubus duel using a sm and bk(3rd class. full stats) and then you will see what everyone is talking about. Who agrees?

[darkzard]

I agree Sm skill is overpowerd, think about it. When stats are at 32k a good player who knows how to use an SM would easily kill a BK. But now they have MC, they can buff themselves, teleport, poison, and other stuff. Bk`s must be in close range to kill another class. How are we suppose to kill an SM if they kill us in 1 hit? No fun at all. And even if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a BK, no chance at all against a SM.

Instead of trying to convince you people, i suggest HK and incubus duel using a sm and bk(3rd class. full stats) and then you will see what everyone is talking about. Who agrees?

me! its unfair for bk, we BK nid some rights too....

[dallen]

Instead of trying to convince you people, i suggest HK and incubus duel using a sm and bk(3rd class. full stats) and then you will see what everyone is talking about. Who agrees?

if they run a test u saying it will be nice, i think everybody agree:)


hmm i think its bin balanced out alil when i tested it out with a friend of mine it took us the same amount of hits to kill eachother from the same range, ( him sm me elf ). So that will mean BK's will need to come up with some stratagies for a change.

How about if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a SM, and come up with stratagies?
Like Good palyer SM +full elf buff + DL critical + BK swell

[ItsMe]

I think what is happening ppls who always play a bk cant get that in this version bk wont be longer the stronger one, i play a ms of cours ^^, but i think its time to change and let another character be the best to fight :p

[darkzard]

wow this is my first bk and its like weak -_-" d*** what a bad luck.....

[Mr_JD]

Not only that, 3 of us -chuchai, me and tripplex died at the same time with one hit of Sircapo.

I agree Sm skill is overpowerd, think about it. When stats are at 32k a good player who knows how to use an SM would easily kill a BK. But now they have MC, they can buff themselves, teleport, poison, and other stuff. Bk`s must be in close range to kill another class. How are we suppose to kill an SM if they kill us in 1 hit? No fun at all. And even if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a BK, no chance at all against a SM.

Instead of trying to convince you people, i suggest HK and incubus duel using a sm and bk(3rd class. full stats) and then you will see what everyone is talking about. Who agrees?

what was when bk was overpowerd? for like 3 or more year's?there were many report's about overpowerd bk,but no one did anything,now is turn of sm to be best char,just acept it... sm's dmg without magic circle is lower than 1500 LOL,just acept that bk can be defeated by an sm...and as i said no one can say if is overpowerd now,tell me when 1 of u is fs with yellow option too...

and,if you dont like bk just make sm...however nick,you know how weak sm was be4 wipe...

and there is an simple solution,ask to incubus to up great fortitude of a lot,so bk fs+set with yellow can survive

[SPAWN]

what was when bk was overpowerd? for like 3 or more year's?there were many report's about overpowerd bk,but no one did anything,now is turn of sm to be best char,just acept it... sm's dmg without magic circle is lower than 1500 LOL,just acept that bk can be defeated by an sm...and as i said no one can say if is overpowerd now,tell me when 1 of u is fs with yellow option too...

and,if you dont like bk just make sm...however nick,you know how weak sm was be4 wipe...

and there is an simple solution,ask to incubus to up great fortitude of a lot,so bk fs+set with yellow can survive

AT least now,indirectly that is, you yourself admitted that SM is indeed overpowered. Will u ever enjoy playing the game fighting with SM's only? if you keep comparing that BK's are the strongest since last 3 years, then why not make MG's or elves the strongest ones, since they are the weakest since the server started? and oh by the way,specially in our guild and allies, a lot of our members are BK's with high rr were planning to donate for their sets for CS, but for now, i encouraged them to hold on with their donations and wait for incubus response coz they'll just waste their cash for nothing. And with regards to NICK's suggestion, i guess that would be a great i dea.

[Mr_JD]

AT least now,indirectly that is, you yourself admitted that SM is indeed overpowered. Will u ever enjoy playing the game fighting with SM's only? if you keep comparing that BK's are the strongest since last 3 years, then why not make MG's or elves the strongest ones, since they are the weakest since the server started? and oh by the way,specially in our guild and allies, a lot of our members are BK's with high rr were planning to donate for their sets for CS, but for now, i encouraged them to hold on with their donations and wait for incubus response coz they'll just waste their cash for nothing. And with regards to NICK's suggestion, i guess that would be a great i dea.

however you didnt forgot that cs dmg is not same at the pvp dmg? i told you,is soon to talk about overpowerd skill's...we need to see with an bk full status full option,with pink and the best yellow option too vs an sm with same thing's...im sure at 100% that bk will be able to survive,and sorry but i dont find good idea let test to incubus and hentaiking,nothing personal but i dont think tthat they know use well sm or bk how some player in game...

[HentaiKing]

How about if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a SM, and come up with stratagies?
Like Good palyer SM +full elf buff + DL critical + BK swell


i dont see your point XD? every player should come up with stratagies to PVP.

[Sparxx]

SM's Arent Overpowered, Ive Already Said This.
BK's Just Arent The Most Powerful Anymore So They're All Crying.
SPARK Absolutely Destroyed Me Yesterday In A Duel, He's A BK and Im A SM. He Beat Me 10 -1.

Its SOOO Unfair That People Want To Consider Making BK's Stronger Just Because They Are Dying For A Change, SM's Could Also Kill Any Other Class In One Hit Aswell, But They're Not Moaning.

Get Used To The Fact That SM's Are More Powerful.

Take A Look At The Positive And Be Glad That We Dnt Have Soul Barrier For A Longer Duration. . .

For Years Id Have To Avoid Picking A Fight With A BK, Maybe BK's Should Just Avoid Picking Fights With SM's For A Change.

Your Being Pathetic By Complaining About Something That Should Of Happened A While Ago.

[thessy75]

What a BLOODY SAD story again in this kind of THREAD.....as i READ ppl responses from TOP to BOTTOM i said to MYSELF WHAT a TYPICAL DREADFUL, UNSOPHISTICATED, SELFISH WAY of thinking.... EACH one trying to depend each case which CHARACTER MUST BE given a SUPERIOR KIND OF POWER and THEREFORE DOMINATE the WORLD of MU.....at the END of the DAY it's INCUBUS who will have the FINAL say to this.... SO....here we go....LETS put aside our DIFFERENCES for a moment and if you're WILLING to leave your SELF-CENTEREDNESS and SELFISHNESS in the other dimension for few minutes, then maybe we can TRY FIGURE this out where we GOING.
It doesnt matter which CHARACTER we're playing at, at the moment.... The BOTTOM line here is the EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF POWER regardless of what character you are. MU is NOT only about SM my friend.... it's NOT only about BK..... BUT it's a world of different character with different skills and power. The PRINCIPLES applied here depends on its ADVANTAGES and DISADVANTAGES of it's CHARACTERS STRENGHT and WEAKNESS. i will give you an EXAMPLE to this... SM/ELF has a LONG RANGE POWER arsenal while BK is a CLOSE range character.... with same POWER ARSENAL BK WOULD NEVER has a CHANCE beating the ELF or SM regardless it's a NEW skills or OLD SKILLS... REGARDLESS OF TACTICS u will use or NO MATTER how GOOD you are as a PLAYER. The LAW says: "before BK reach a close contact to an ELF/SM.... the reality is there...HE's already DEAD... YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME THE WHOLE DAY but THATS THE REALITY OF THE STORY...and BESIDES we are LIVING IN A FREE VOLITIONAL WORLD which is SOMEBODY IS IMPECCABLE to his OWN way of thinking. I understand that the server is still on the PROCESS of upgrading and adjusting some things....and of coz as i've said the FINAL say here is with Mr. INcubus....i just hope that every POWER of skills will be taken into consederation of DISTRIBUTING it FAIR AND SQUARE TO EVERY CHARACTERS then we may able to enjoy IEN in a more FAIRLY GAME and excitement of LEveling up at the same time....Thank you very much! LETS help IEN and SUPPORT IT!

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH IT'S SQUEZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS and UKBULLDOG.....

[HentaiKing]

What a BLOODY SAD story again in this kind of THREAD.....as i READ ppl responses from TOP to BOTTOM i said to MYSELF WHAT a TYPICAL DREADFUL, UNSOPHISTICATED, SELFISH WAY of thinking.... EACH one trying to depend each case which CHARACTER MUST BE given a SUPERIOR KIND OF POWER and THEREFORE DOMINATE the WORLD of MU.....at the END of the DAY it's INCUBUS who will have the FINAL say to this.... SO....here we go....LETS put aside our DIFFERENCES for a moment and if you're WILLING to leave your SELF-CENTEREDNESS and SELFISHNESS in the other dimension for few minutes, then maybe we can TRY FIGURE this out where we GOING.
It doesnt matter which CHARACTER we're playing at, at the moment.... The BOTTOM line here is the EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF POWER regardless of what character you are. MU is NOT only about SM my friend.... it's NOT only about BK..... BUT it's a world of different character with different skills and power. The PRINCIPLES applied here depends on its ADVANTAGES and DISADVANTAGES of it's CHARACTERS STRENGHT and WEAKNESS. i will give you an EXAMPLE to this... SM/ELF has a LONG RANGE POWER arsenal while BK is a CLOSE range character.... with same POWER ARSENAL BK WOULD NEVER has a CHANCE beating the ELF or SM regardless it's a NEW skills or OLD SKILLS... REGARDLESS OF TACTICS u will use or NO MATTER how GOOD you are as a PLAYER. The LAW says: "before BK reach a close contact to an ELF/SM.... the reality is there...HE's already DEAD... YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME THE WHOLE DAY but THATS THE REALITY OF THE STORY...and BESIDES we are LIVING IN A FREE VOLITIONAL WORLD which is SOMEBODY IS IMPECCABLE to his OWN way of thinking. I understand that the server is still on the PROCESS of upgrading and adjusting some things....and of coz as i've said the FINAL say here is with Mr. INcubus....i just hope that every POWER of skills will be taken into consederation of DISTRIBUTING it FAIR AND SQUARE TO EVERY CHARACTERS then we may able to enjoy IEN in a more FAIRLY GAME and excitement of LEveling up at the same time....Thank you very much! LETS help IEN and SUPPORT IT!

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH IT'S SQUEZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS and UKBULLDOG.....

well basicly all char classes except BK have ranged attacks ( bk's range attacks are more mid range then long range ) which as you've just said and i and many others have already bin saying for a long time has its dis and its advantages which will need to be learned to live with.

Either way Its Inc's server and Inc's decision on what will be done with it.

The times that i've tested this with a friend our rr's weren't that far out of each other and still we'd be evenly matched. So tactics are what would make the difference in that battle :).

[SPAWN]

SM's Arent Overpowered, Ive Already Said This.
BK's Just Arent The Most Powerful Anymore So They're All Crying.
SPARK Absolutely Destroyed Me Yesterday In A Duel, He's A BK and Im A SM. He Beat Me 10 -1.

Its SOOO Unfair That People Want To Consider Making BK's Stronger Just Because They Are Dying For A Change, SM's Could Also Kill Any Other Class In One Hit Aswell, But They're Not Moaning.

Get Used To The Fact That SM's Are More Powerful.

Take A Look At The Positive And Be Glad That We Dnt Have Soul Barrier For A Longer Duration. . .

For Years Id Have To Avoid Picking A Fight With A BK, Maybe BK's Should Just Avoid Picking Fights With SM's For A Change.

Your Being Pathetic By Complaining About Something That Should Of Happened A While Ago.

imao, im not only referring to BK's overwhelmed by SM's, im talking in behalf of all players here. How well u then explain that a 100 rr SM like im2kul4u can kill hellangel with full agi,full vit and full ene with VM set+13+5 opt? they have 200 rr differences yet this sm im2kul4u can kill him face to face. would u like that? would u like fighting 1 hit again? this is suppose to be a strategic game not a 1 hit game only... and one thing more, funny a SM with bad set and weapon can kill a BK like me with FO set. if this will go on, belive me, no one will ever donate sets again if pimping items with gud options is useless in game. TRY it sparx, try to fight with high rr SM's with gud sets like mitico, and youll find out wat im talking about here.

however you didnt forgot that cs dmg is not same at the pvp dmg? i told you,is soon to talk about overpowerd skill's...we need to see with an bk full status full option,with pink and the best yellow option too vs an sm with same thing's...im sure at 100% that bk will be able to survive,and sorry but i dont find good idea let test to incubus and hentaiking,nothing personal but i dont think tthat they know use well sm or bk how some player in game...

lol your wrong, let me refresh your mind. we did a duel fight in loren after the CS remember? and the result is the same. i tried pking with my GM hellangel and the result is the same. my set has pink opt with DD yellow opt. It will all the be same whether it be FS BK or not. with my experience, with full vit and full agi killed in 1 hit..this is reason enough that der is something wrong.

[Thunder]

I agree Sm skill is overpowerd, think about it. When stats are at 32k a good player who knows how to use an SM would easily kill a BK. But now they have MC, they can buff themselves, teleport, poison, and other stuff. Bk`s must be in close range to kill another class. How are we suppose to kill an SM if they kill us in 1 hit? No fun at all. And even if there is a good player behind the keyboard with a BK, no chance at all against a SM.

Instead of trying to convince you people, i suggest HK and incubus duel using a sm and bk(3rd class. full stats) and then you will see what everyone is talking about. Who agrees?

I agree..! :D.. lets figth ^^

[Mr_JD]

spawn,now realy,i think that bk need to be full status with pink and yellow option for survive vs an sm with magic circle,because as all know with all stat's full u have more SD and sd is 70% of your life,and what i can say about yellow option? just that is the most important option in game,and if you make the best one damage decrement incrase or DDI you can have +42% less dmg (each part can be +7%,and if you use shield is 42% and without shield is 35%)...trust me,with an bk fs you will see that mc is not overpowerd,and as all know sm are the most strong at low rr's because they need just agility and energy,but bk need much more...so just wait until fs...then you will see that is not overpowerd...


lol your wrong, let me refresh your mind. we did a duel fight in loren after the CS remember? and the result is the same. i tried pking with my GM hellangel and the result is the same. my set has pink opt with DD yellow opt. It will all the be same whether it be FS BK or not. with my experience, with full vit and full agi killed in 1 hit..this is reason enough that der is something wrong.


about what duel you are talking about? however as i said you need full ddi and full status for survive...

[SPAWN]

spawn,now realy,i think that bk need to be full status with pink and yellow option for survive vs an sm with magic circle,because as all know with all stat's full u have more SD and sd is 70% of your life,and what i can say about yellow option? just that is the most important option in game,and if you make the best one damage decrement incrase or DDI you can have +42% less dmg (each part can be +7%,and if you use shield is 42% and without shield is 35%)...trust me,with an bk fs you will see that mc is not overpowerd,and as all know sm are the most strong at low rr's because they need just agility and energy,but bk need much more...so just wait until fs...then you will see that is not overpowerd...





about what duel you are talking about? however as i said you need full ddi and full status for survive...

until now you're still pretending that your not mitico? lol. u cant fool any of us here. zzzzz. ok then, fine.. why dont you ask your friend mitico about our duel after cs.. go and ask your self "toinks" i mean ur friend

well basicly all char classes except BK have ranged attacks ( bk's range attacks are more mid range then long range ) which as you've just said and i and many others have already bin saying for a long time has its dis and its advantages which will need to be learned to live with.

Either way Its Inc's server and Inc's decision on what will be done with it.

The times that i've tested this with a friend our rr's weren't that far out of each other and still we'd be evenly matched. So tactics are what would make the difference in that battle :).

i dont know how many rr are u guys in game, but i suggest that try wat nick have just said, try to duel with incubus SM in game vs your admin char ( im not sure if your admin char is bk). pls try it, and you'll see wat we are complaining about

[NICK]

All we ask is that you(hentaiking) and another GM or maybe incubus test it yourself. I'm pretty sure incubus can temporarily make 2 characters both full stats, and FO, SM and BK with yellow options and pink options (top sets) The only way you'll be able to understand what were talking about, is to experience it yourself.

If incubus can't/won't do that, i'll lend my account(Aquino) to any of the Gm's and lets set up a duel against a willing SM with high rr.

[HentaiKing]

first of all spawn dont double/multi post the multi quote button isnt there for nothing.

2ndly it still took both me and sparky 3 hits atleast to kill eachother even when he used Magic Circle. And that was with just 3 rr's apart. I dont think that with tie resets the difference would be that much different either.

While considering things as Attack Speed and Defense there should be some difference but in the end we are already all playing with overpowered characters as i mentioned before.

Anyway like i said Lets just wait and see what Inc has to say about it.

[SPAWN]

first of all spawn dont double/multi post the multi quote button isnt there for nothing.

2ndly it still took both me and sparky 3 hits atleast to kill eachother even when he used Magic Circle. And that was with just 3 rr's apart. I dont think that with tie resets the difference would be that much different either.

While considering things as Attack Speed and Defense there should be some difference but in the end we are already all playing with overpowered characters as i mentioned before.

Anyway like i said Lets just wait and see what Inc has to say about it.

sorry bout that, to tell u honestly i dont know much about forum threads, and i just saw that multiple quote button only just now:D. anywayz, yes u wont experience it till sparky gets higher ene and agi. for now, hes still weak coz he is a low rr SM, but once he reaches about 100 rr, and gets more ene, try to fight again and you'll see the difference.

[Mr_JD]

spawn,you need to understand how char work be4 said that is overpowerd or not...tell me if i wrong without say other thing's...

1-u know that sm is stronger at low rr because he need just full ene and agility for have hight hit?
2-u know that your hp is only 30% of your total hp and that sd is other 70%?
3-u know that you need full ddi;i mean all part's 7% ddi,in shield too if u have one? (if you dont WANT to use shield aganist an sm is your fault)...so until you you dont are fs and you dont test this on your self dont complain,just acept it.how we did for 3 years for bk

[Kadaj]

As i was saying..
Does anyone else share my concern for DL dark spirit spell.
I give up i'll make my own thread about it ;D

[thessy75]

you really made me smile hentai, you HIGHLIGHTED my post, BUT you MISSED the POINT of what the THOUGHT of my post was all about.... NO OFFENSE but instead of UNDERSTANDING it you MESSED UP with it... i tell you WHY?.....FIRSTLY, I AM FULLY aware the advantages and disadvantages of being a BK.... i been playing this game for years my friend and in this server and at the same time being a supporter so i kNOW EXACTLY HOW EACH CHARACTERS BEHAVE and OPERATES... and as what u've said in your reply to my post you're right... "I been living it for years". SECONDLY, When i say CLOSE RANGE " MID-RANGE" is also PART of it.... and WHEN in the UNIVERSE was MID-RANGE and LONG-RANGE a "SYNONYM"???? or in literal english... "SAME MEANING"..... i DID say in MY post and i will say this again... "if SM and BK has the "SAME" i used the word "SAME" take note of it... has the same POWER ARSENAL regardless of their SKILLS , the CLOSE RANGE CHARACTER would NEVER beat THE long range character... and i will say this to you as well.... EVEN TACTICS as what you are TRYING TO IMPLY in your SUCCEEDING post even "WOULDNT" make a DIFFERENCE. this is a GAME SCENARIO my friend NOT a MOVIE SCENE... I WILL give you a LITERAL example for this so that you yourself can pause and think what EXACTLY BULLDOG is saying here... IN A LONG DISTANCE perimeter face to face ( CLEAR AREA) you are holding a KNIFE/SWORD and me myself holding an AK47 gun, who you think will KISS the FLOOR? for YOU ATLEAST to COMPETE/MODIFY my advantage from you, i think you can WEAR A BULLETPROOF vest... see if you can have at least a GLIMPES of taking me down but the CHANCES is still LOW.... I challenge you to think in a FAIRLY WAY because this is NOT only your game.... this is NOT only my GAME but this is EVERYBODY'S game my friend... and I AM CONSCIOUSLY aware that this is A PRIVATE SERVER and INCUBUS is the owner but it DOESNT MEAN that PLAYERS here that the ONLY mistakes they made was PLEADING their case because they "THINK" something was WRONG and i HOPE we will give them the chance at least so that we can LIASE to their VOICE EMBEDDED TO the "COMPLAINT" was all about, and NOT just "HALF-WAY" closing the door for them.. IF you highlighted my post again please make sure you read it CAREFULLY and TAKE NOTE of the KEY WORDS im using. Thank you and LET'S SUPPORT IEN...

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH ITS SQUIZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS AND UKBULLDOG...

[sammi]

someone here tells: the MC is overpowered!
the others tell: MC is not overpowered!
and the others write: DL is underpowered:D (this is an MC is overpowerd thread, or did I read wrong?)

so I tell to BK's:
U all know that a SM can kill u with one hit now,
so the onliest possibility to get not killed is:
Be far away from server 3 (or 4), or from the SM's inside it.

To SM's I tell:
U all can kill a BK with one hit, cause of magic circle!
So think over before u fight a BK, is it fair to use MC?
May, I think Hellangels or Sircapo or other strong SM's don't need MC to kill a BK, right?
So, but if the other not so strong SM's are fair, they dont use MC while fighting a BK!

I think:
MC is not overtpowered, but you shouldn't use it to defeat other players!
You shall use it to kill enemys, not to kill players...


Greetings,
sammi

[Sparxx]

imao, im not only referring to BK's overwhelmed by SM's, im talking in behalf of all players here. How well u then explain that a 100 rr SM like im2kul4u can kill hellangel with full agi,full vit and full ene with VM set+13+5 opt? they have 200 rr differences yet this sm im2kul4u can kill him face to face. would u like that? would u like fighting 1 hit again? this is suppose to be a strategic game not a 1 hit game only... and one thing more, funny a SM with bad set and weapon can kill a BK like me with FO set. if this will go on, belive me, no one will ever donate sets again if pimping items with gud options is useless in game. TRY it sparx, try to fight with high rr SM's with gud sets like mitico, and youll find out wat im talking about here.

Then Come Up With A Strategy To Beat SM

I Preferred It When There Was An Economy And NO FO Sets Tbh. . So Thats An Invalid Point.

What a BLOODY SAD story again in this kind of THREAD.....as i READ ppl responses from TOP to BOTTOM i said to MYSELF WHAT a TYPICAL DREADFUL, UNSOPHISTICATED, SELFISH WAY of thinking.... EACH one trying to depend each case which CHARACTER MUST BE given a SUPERIOR KIND OF POWER and THEREFORE DOMINATE the WORLD of MU.....at the END of the DAY it's INCUBUS who will have the FINAL say to this.... SO....here we go....LETS put aside our DIFFERENCES for a moment and if you're WILLING to leave your SELF-CENTEREDNESS and SELFISHNESS in the other dimension for few minutes, then maybe we can TRY FIGURE this out where we GOING.
It doesnt matter which CHARACTER we're playing at, at the moment.... The BOTTOM line here is the EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF POWER regardless of what character you are. MU is NOT only about SM my friend.... it's NOT only about BK..... BUT it's a world of different character with different skills and power. The PRINCIPLES applied here depends on its ADVANTAGES and DISADVANTAGES of it's CHARACTERS STRENGHT and WEAKNESS. i will give you an EXAMPLE to this... SM/ELF has a LONG RANGE POWER arsenal while BK is a CLOSE range character.... with same POWER ARSENAL BK WOULD NEVER has a CHANCE beating the ELF or SM regardless it's a NEW skills or OLD SKILLS... REGARDLESS OF TACTICS u will use or NO MATTER how GOOD you are as a PLAYER. The LAW says: "before BK reach a close contact to an ELF/SM.... the reality is there...HE's already DEAD... YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME THE WHOLE DAY but THATS THE REALITY OF THE STORY...and BESIDES we are LIVING IN A FREE VOLITIONAL WORLD which is SOMEBODY IS IMPECCABLE to his OWN way of thinking. I understand that the server is still on the PROCESS of upgrading and adjusting some things....and of coz as i've said the FINAL say here is with Mr. INcubus....i just hope that every POWER of skills will be taken into consederation of DISTRIBUTING it FAIR AND SQUARE TO EVERY CHARACTERS then we may able to enjoy IEN in a more FAIRLY GAME and excitement of LEveling up at the same time....Thank you very much! LETS help IEN and SUPPORT IT!

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH IT'S SQUEZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS and UKBULLDOG.....

Whats That Got To Do With Anything, Your Just Rambling Pointlessly.

I Got UNBELIVEABLY BORED Reading Your Post.
I Know What Your Trying To Say But Your NOT HELPING THINGS By Telling Everyone What We Already Know.
My Advice Would Be Stop Trying To Make A Post That Will End The Thread.
Because Ultimately, It Will ALWAYS Be Inc Or A GM Who Has The Final Say.

P.S. What The Hell Is Up With You Typing Everything You THINK Is A GOOD Point In CAPITALS? >.>

[HentaiKing]

you really made me smile hentai, you HIGHLIGHTED my post, BUT you MISSED the POINT of what the THOUGHT of my post was all about.... NO OFFENSE but instead of UNDERSTANDING it you MESSED UP with it... i tell you WHY?.....FIRSTLY, I AM FULLY aware the advantages and disadvantages of being a BK.... i been playing this game for years my friend and in this server and at the same time being a supporter so i kNOW EXACTLY HOW EACH CHARACTERS BEHAVE and OPERATES... and as what u've said in your reply to my post you're right... "I been living it for years". SECONDLY, When i say CLOSE RANGE " MID-RANGE" is also PART of it.... and WHEN in the UNIVERSE was MID-RANGE and LONG-RANGE a "SYNONYM"???? or in literal english... "SAME MEANING"..... i DID say in MY post and i will say this again... "if SM and BK has the "SAME" i used the word "SAME" take note of it... has the same POWER ARSENAL regardless of their SKILLS , the CLOSE RANGE CHARACTER would NEVER beat THE long range character... and i will say this to you as well.... EVEN TACTICS as what you are TRYING TO IMPLY in your SUCCEEDING post even "WOULDNT" make a DIFFERENCE. this is a GAME SCENARIO my friend NOT a MOVIE SCENE... I WILL give you a LITERAL example for this so that you yourself can pause and think what EXACTLY BULLDOG is saying here... IN A LONG DISTANCE perimeter face to face ( CLEAR AREA) you are holding a KNIFE/SWORD and me myself holding an AK47 gun, who you think will KISS the FLOOR? for YOU ATLEAST to COMPETE/MODIFY my advantage from you, i think you can WEAR A BULLETPROOF vest... see if you can have at least a GLIMPES of taking me down but the CHANCES is still LOW.... I challenge you to think in a FAIRLY WAY because this is NOT only your game.... this is NOT only my GAME but this is EVERYBODY'S game my friend... and I AM CONSCIOUSLY aware that this is A PRIVATE SERVER and INCUBUS is the owner but it DOESNT MEAN that PLAYERS here that the ONLY mistakes they made was PLEADING their case because they "THINK" something was WRONG and i HOPE we will give them the chance at least so that we can LIASE to their VOICE EMBEDDED TO the "COMPLAINT" was all about, and NOT just "HALF-WAY" closing the door for them.. IF you highlighted my post again please make sure you read it CAREFULLY and TAKE NOTE of the KEY WORDS im using. Thank you and LET'S SUPPORT IEN...

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH ITS SQUIZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS AND UKBULLDOG...

here i'll make you smile again :)

anyway, a game cant be compared to a real life situation and its never wise to bring such a thing up in an internet discussion since it only leads to ragin and flaming. ( ps i'd own you with the Sword! XD)

anywho it seems your the one who totaly missed the point :), there are clearly huge differences in Mid and Long Range attacks if you dont know em then dont come complaining about my metafore.

There is no Halfway here and there is no closing the door, I've said this numerous of times now IT IS INCUBUS'S SERVER SO ITS HIS DECISION ON WHAT WILL BE DONE ABOUT THIS NO MATTER HOW MUCH PPL COMPLAIN OR WHINE.

NOW THEN, lets just wait and see what Inc has to say about this. And heck who knows hemight actualy still be working on these things if ya checked the launcher news you'd have seen he has bin working on skill duration and such before so he's probably still tweaking things.

[SPAWN]

someone here tells: the MC is overpowered!
the others tell: MC is not overpowered!
and the others write: DL is underpowered:D (this is an MC is overpowerd thread, or did I read wrong?)

so I tell to BK's:
U all know that a SM can kill u with one hit now,
so the onliest possibility to get not killed is:
Be far away from server 3 (or 4), or from the SM's inside it.

To SM's I tell:
U all can kill a BK with one hit, cause of magic circle!
So think over before u fight a BK, is it fair to use MC?
May, I think Hellangels or Sircapo or other strong SM's don't need MC to kill a BK, right?
So, but if the other not so strong SM's are fair, they dont use MC while fighting a BK!

I think:
MC is not overtpowered, but you shouldn't use it to defeat other players!
You shall use it to kill enemys, not to kill players...


Greetings,
sammi


tell me, yes your right about going to another server to avoid SM's but how can we, BK's then participate in CS if SM's are overpowered? i suggest that u shud watch this coming CS and you'll see wats really going on here. and the only way to beat BK's is by using their MC pal. But what we are trying to emphasize here is that, to lessen the power of MC so BK's wont just die in 1 hit. And sparxx stop telling "to come up with strategies" because we keep on telling in this thread that strategy is useless if u can be killed in one hit. Unlike BK's, SM's can avoid attacks by using their teleport skills. Bk's cant avoid such attacks coz even we try to avoid or run away, we'll still die becoz again, we die in just 1 hit coz SM's can kill in a longer range..

Well if incu is trying to consider what we are trying to complain here, well have to wait for his response and actions then.

[Thunder]

tell me, yes your right about going to another server to avoid SM's but how can we, BK's then participate in CS if SM's are overpowered? i suggest that u shud watch this coming CS and you'll see wats really going on here. and the only way to beat BK's is by using their MC pal. But what we are trying to emphasize here is that, to lessen the power of MC so BK's wont just die in 1 hit. And sparxx stop telling "to come up with strategies" because we keep on telling in this thread that strategy is useless if u can be killed in one hit. Unlike BK's, SM's can avoid attacks by using their teleport skills. Bk's cant avoid such attacks coz even we try to avoid or run away, we'll still die becoz again, we die in just 1 hit coz SM's can kill in a longer range..

Well if incu is trying to consider what we are trying to complain here, well have to wait for his response and actions then.

You're right! no way, because if you die in a single skill, I think this is unfair and this is something I also expect a rapid response team of the imperial mu, I think the game loses the emotion die in a single skill, The The previous version was removed because the 65 K Stat bk was very powerful down to 32,767 to have two chances to win but this is too much! :mad:


Edited: By the way which is very annoying that most items I buy and all the stuff of Bk, if so I would have bought everything for the magician. ! They have to understand because we are all dissatisfied

[Sparxx]

I Wont Stop Saying It At All.

SPAWN, You Keep Wanting People To Admit SM's Are Overpowered But You Havent Yet Agreed That For Years BK's Have Been Overpowered.
Stop QQ-ing And Just Lets Hear From INC.

Hk Can You Close This Thread?

Cause All The BK's Are Just Annyoning The Hell Outta Me.

[Thunder]

I Wont Stop Saying It At All.

SPAWN, You Keep Wanting People To Admit SM's Are Overpowered But You Havent Yet Agreed That For Years BK's Have Been Overpowered.
Stop QQ-ing And Just Lets Hear From INC.

Hk Can You Close This Thread?

Cause All The BK's Are Just Annyoning The Hell Outta Me.

If you realize there is a ranking as it were the best between the characters is the first "BK" and the second "SM" , I think this can not be altered or only reason there is a "bug" or the administrator system prefers the first of this sm

Note: If you do not want to keep posting you do not nobody calls you! ;)

[POWERPUFF]

I Wont Stop Saying It At All.

SPAWN, You Keep Wanting People To Admit SM's Are Overpowered But You Havent Yet Agreed That For Years BK's Have Been Overpowered.
Stop QQ-ing And Just Lets Hear From INC.

Hk Can You Close This Thread?

Cause All The BK's Are Just Annyoning The Hell Outta Me.

looks hus QQ-ing here. You dont know wat spawn is trying to tell us here. he is not doing this for the sake of BK's only but for all classes as well. Heis just pointing out that the SM MC is to overpowered and he is not talking about making BK overwhelm the game again but he is reffering to BALANCE AMONG SKILLS IN ALL CLASSES. U are reacting that way becoz u are an SM. I my self is an SM and i want to enjoy this game with fair fair fight. I wont enjoy the game if i can only kill my opponent by 1 hit only. And u can't request to close this thread becoz u are just annoyed by BK players. as u can see, every day, some players are voicing out der concerns and comments regarding the topic. If u are annoyed, stop replying in the thread and shut up.

[SPAWN]

wew, finally there are players here who understands wat we are trying to say here. Like powerpuff had just said, if you think we are annoying you, then stop posting in this thread and shut up.

[Mr_JD]

spawn and other who are complaing about mc saw what i said? you need to be a fs bk with yellow for survive vs me,until your fs pls stop complain about mc,and this seems just trick for take castle,because u talked about mc in cs...

[thessy75]

Hey SPARKY.....DONT react too MUCH... Is my POST Hurting you? WHAT A SHAME you're ONE of those pathetic, duff ,balloney, self- centered person ever REACTED to what I've said... i THINK you're right, my POST was pretty BORING because you NEVER COMPREHEND a SINGLE THOUGHT of my POST. What an EMPTY SPACE in your DULL brain isn't it SPARKY? COULDNT figure it out what I'M trying to ACCENTUATES here in my post.... and hey DAWG! check out your OWN grammar and spelling before you COMMENTED mine because as I had read your previous thread and post..... hear this..... i was laughing on my back with WIND coming out from my BACKSIDE.... LITERALLY.....Your grammar/the thought of your post was a CHAOS that even my fellow prof. collegue couldn't even UNDERSTOOD what EXACTLY what you up to? DON'T IMPRESS ME SPARKY because i know where you stand....UNFORTUNATELY the level of your mentality was So IMMATURE that it HINDERS you to LISTEN to sombody's point of view.. Well, I CAN help you NO MORE i'm afraid SPARKY... take it easy, take a deep breath, look after your heart and blood pressure..Don't be driven away too hard by your emotions if it's REALLY hurting you. I DONT want to REPEAT my post all over again... i had stated my case on behalf of those who couldn't speak for themselves, and that's it....i leave it to Mr. INCUBUS....thanks for the comment sparky i enjoyed it. IMPRESSIVE but NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

As for you hentai, I couldn't argue more my friend, i guess that's it...I can't afford to waste my time repeating myself all over again as it seems to me that you NEVER understood what i'm trying to ACCENTUATES here in my post. so that's it....Thank you very much for the comment and i appreciate it..No hard feelings my friend as all of us here are entitle to speak as what we believe is right. so, yeap, let's just wait for incubus and hopefully we can be clarified in this matter. thank you, enjoy and let's SUPPORT IEN.

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH IT'S SQUEZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS AND UKBULLDOG

[Kadaj]

What a BLOODY SAD story again in this kind of THREAD.....as i READ ppl responses from TOP to BOTTOM i said to MYSELF WHAT a TYPICAL DREADFUL, UNSOPHISTICATED, SELFISH WAY of thinking.... EACH one trying to depend each case which CHARACTER MUST BE given a SUPERIOR KIND OF POWER and THEREFORE DOMINATE the WORLD of MU.....at the END of the DAY it's INCUBUS who will have the FINAL say to this.... SO....here we go....LETS put aside our DIFFERENCES for a moment and if you're WILLING to leave your SELF-CENTEREDNESS and SELFISHNESS in the other dimension for few minutes, then maybe we can TRY FIGURE this out where we GOING.
It doesnt matter which CHARACTER we're playing at, at the moment.... The BOTTOM line here is the EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF POWER regardless of what character you are. MU is NOT only about SM my friend.... it's NOT only about BK..... BUT it's a world of different character with different skills and power. The PRINCIPLES applied here depends on its ADVANTAGES and DISADVANTAGES of it's CHARACTERS STRENGHT and WEAKNESS. i will give you an EXAMPLE to this... SM/ELF has a LONG RANGE POWER arsenal while BK is a CLOSE range character.... with same POWER ARSENAL BK WOULD NEVER has a CHANCE beating the ELF or SM regardless it's a NEW skills or OLD SKILLS... REGARDLESS OF TACTICS u will use or NO MATTER how GOOD you are as a PLAYER. The LAW says: "before BK reach a close contact to an ELF/SM.... the reality is there...HE's already DEAD... YOU CAN ARGUE WITH ME THE WHOLE DAY but THATS THE REALITY OF THE STORY...and BESIDES we are LIVING IN A FREE VOLITIONAL WORLD which is SOMEBODY IS IMPECCABLE to his OWN way of thinking. I understand that the server is still on the PROCESS of upgrading and adjusting some things....and of coz as i've said the FINAL say here is with Mr. INcubus....i just hope that every POWER of skills will be taken into consederation of DISTRIBUTING it FAIR AND SQUARE TO EVERY CHARACTERS then we may able to enjoy IEN in a more FAIRLY GAME and excitement of LEveling up at the same time....Thank you very much! LETS help IEN and SUPPORT IT!

"MAKE SURE THE JUICE WORTH IT'S SQUEZZED"

BROTHERHOOD OF SNAYDERS and UKBULLDOG.....


Wasi the only one who looked at this entire post and gave up reading aftert the second line.

[IncubuS]

We'll take this topic in consideration on the next server maintenance.

[Mr_JD]

We'll take this topic in consideration on the next server maintenance.

as i heard from an game master mc was decrased today...

[SPAWN]

nice to hear from u incubus. thanks for the response and consideration that u are going to make. Perhaps HK can finally close this thread. My final word is that, i did not post this thread becoz we want BK's to overwhelm the game, but in behalf of all classes including SM's, all we want is a balance among all the classes. And i'll assure you that all players in this game will stay, enjoy the game and will support IEN more if our concerns will be heard and be granted. Its a about time to bring back those players who wer disappointed and stopped playing because of this issue. More power to you INCUBUS and More power to IEN.

[Mr_JD]

nice to hear from u incubus. thanks for the response and consideration that u are going to make. Perhaps HK can finally close this thread. My final word is that, i did not post this thread becoz we want BK's to overwhelm the game, but in behalf of all classes including SM's, all we want is a balance among all the classes. And i'll assure you that all players in this game will stay, enjoy the game and will support IEN more if our concerns will be heard and be granted. Its a about time to bring back those players who wer disappointed and stopped playing because of this issue. More power to you INCUBUS and More power to IEN.

dont know why i dont believe in wat you said,i think you want overpowerd bk like be4 wipe because you cant acept that sm can kill an bk...

[HOTGAL]

dont know why i dont believe in wat you said,i think you want overpowerd bk like be4 wipe because you cant acept that sm can kill an bk...

Thats not what he is saying..... he is just wants the SM vs BK to be a fair challenge instead of SM killing BK in 1 hit .... but i think thats not true.... Magic Circle doesn't over a BK because i have a faced someone with a SM and it was hard both ways.

[SPAWN]

dont know why i dont believe in wat you said,i think you want overpowerd bk like be4 wipe because you cant acept that sm can kill an bk...

stop arguing with me now MITICO, the fact that incubus is considering to lower the MC it is becoz he was able to prove and found out that wat im saying here is true. Why, are u scared that u cant kill BK's in 1 hit anymore?

[Jodax10]

mmmm i remenber in last serve sm = suck now is power full S: incubus or king said me 1 time. bk = best why have more stren for atac.. i said... mm ok.......i see :S.. i belive... ms ..elfa and sm need 1 balanc no ex-------------cesive.....just ms i said thx people ..........:D

[Mr_JD]

Thats not what he is saying..... he is just wants the SM vs BK to be a fair challenge instead of SM killing BK in 1 hit .... but i think thats not true.... Magic Circle doesn't over a BK because i have a faced someone with a SM and it was hard both ways.

dont know if u was here be4 wipe,when bk was able to kill any char in 1 hit even with all fo and yellow,was so fo month's and month's...and someone did something? no...now just 1 player cryied about mc and incubus already decrased it...if you call this fair....

stop arguing with me now MITICO, the fact that incubus is considering to lower the MC it is becoz he was able to prove and found out that wat im saying here is true. Why, are u scared that u cant kill BK's in 1 hit anymore?

again... use an translator if you dont understand when i say that im not Mitico...as for your last part of post is same answer as for hotgal ^ ...and spawn,trying hard to take castle? seems that you dont acept that cooles keeping that... however i hope now you will stop cry,now mc is less than 10%

[50cent]

Chill out guys IncubuS has decreased the Power of Magic Circle : use the launcher and u will see!

[SPAWN]

dont know if u was here be4 wipe,when bk was able to kill any char in 1 hit even with all fo and yellow,was so fo month's and month's...and someone did something? no...now just 1 player cryied about mc and incubus already decrased it...if you call this fair....



again... use an translator if you dont understand when i say that im not Mitico...as for your last part of post is same answer as for hotgal ^ ...and spawn,trying hard to take castle? seems that you dont acept that cooles keeping that...

your just scared MITICO. U cant hide your identity and fool everybody here... Trying hard to take castle? Then how come Aquino is with me with this thread? He is complaining about MC too yet he's one of your allies.. admit it man, your just scared.

[HOTGAL]

dont know if u was here be4 wipe,when bk was able to kill any char in 1 hit even with all fo and yellow,was so fo month's and month's...and someone did something? no...now just 1 player cryied about mc and incubus already decrased it...if you call this fair....



again... use an translator if you dont understand when i say that im not Mitico...as for your last part of post is same answer as for hotgal ^ ...and spawn,trying hard to take castle? seems that you dont acept that cooles keeping that... however i hope now you will stop cry,now mc is less than 10%

U ARE MITICO BECAUSE UR PROTECTING SM! AND MITICO IS LIKE 300 rr and HE need Magic Circle to kill BK so Shhh.

[Mr_JD]

your just scared MITICO. U cant hide your identity and fool everybody here... Trying hard to take castle? Then how come Aquino is with me with this thread? He is complaining about MC too yet he's one of your allies.. admit it man, your just scared.

for this i had discussion with him...however spawn use this for translate what i say --> http://translate.google.it/ Im Not Mitico

Reworked Season 4 Skills (magic circle)
U ARE MITICO BECAUSE UR PROTECTING SM! AND MITICO IS LIKE 300 rr and HE need Magic Circle to kill BK so Shhh.

huh,another,when this will have end? i protecting sm because im sm,but not Mitico...so stuff both u

[SPAWN]

maybe u shud try harder in hiding your identity. it doesn't work man... maybe u need that more than i do.

[Mr_JD]

maybe u shud try harder in hiding your identity. it doesn't work man... maybe u need that more than i do.

well,i give up,talk to ignorant ppl is useless...think whatever you want,i already told all about this thing...

[HOTGAL]

huh,another,when this will have end? i protecting sm because im sm,but not Mitico...so stuff both u

Even HK said that you and "Mitico" have almost the same IP adress.... so... that means he is your nieghbour or lives close to u OR he is U ^_^

[SPAWN]

well,i give up,talk to ignorant ppl is useless...think whatever you want,i already told all about this thing...

Well again your referring to yourself again, the word "USELESS and IGNORANT" describes u very well

[Thunder]

for this i had discussion with him...however spawn use this for translate what i say --> http://translate.google.it/ Im Not Mitico



huh,another,when this will have end? i protecting sm because im sm,but not Mitico...so stuff both u

I could not help but read this part "i because im protecting sm sm" Mitico when the game started he said "I am not Mr JD-The internet is not at home and not playing little hour" Now you say you are playing but the truth who understands you and the collapse of so many lies. Do not be so mind chicken

[HOTGAL]

Well Here is a post about the this thread instead of spamming it:

Reworked Season 4 Skills (magic circle)

- SM Magic Power Start = 5 (With How much % start the skill)
- SM Magic Power Duration = 25 (In Seconds, Magic Power duration)
- SM Magic POwer Points = 3500 (Energy Points for + 1% wizz dmg)


NEW UPDATE READ IT!

[HentaiKing]

mmmm i remenber in last serve sm = suck now is power full S: incubus or king said me 1 time. bk = best why have more stren for atac.. i said... mm ok.......i see :S.. i belive... ms ..elfa and sm need 1 balanc no ex-------------cesive.....just ms i said thx people ..........:D

I never said that a BK is the best char :)

dont know why i dont believe in wat you said,i think you want overpowerd bk like be4 wipe because you cant acept that sm can kill an bk...

U couldn't accept that either before :)

dont know if u was here be4 wipe,when bk was able to kill any char in 1 hit even with all fo and yellow,was so fo month's and month's...and someone did something? no...now just 1 player cryied about mc and incubus already decrased it...if you call this fair....



again... use an translator if you dont understand when i say that im not Mitico...as for your last part of post is same answer as for hotgal ^ ...and spawn,trying hard to take castle? seems that you dont acept that cooles keeping that... however i hope now you will stop cry,now mc is less than 10%

Yea they did :) you even replied in the topic about that. And it did get worked one just like it got worked on now so yea it is FAIR

anywho seeing as Inc's bin working on this time to close it to prevent you pplz from spamming and flaming any further since that gets us nowhere.