DL skill is STILL underpowerd.

[Kadaj]

I'd like to thank the scripter of the server for increasing the damage on Dark spirit attack by DL.
But a 15% damage increase really isn't anywhere near enough.
I do almost four times the damage of dark spirit. by using a simple spell such as fireburst.
A 15% damage increase has changed NOTHING.
Any other DL's agree x_x?
I stand by what i said. i wanna make the time i spent doing the third quest worth it.
Just like other classes i'd like to actually have my 3rd quest skill USEFULL.
Because right now dark spirit is still a ridiculous joke.

[Esmeralda]

Dark Spirit, is that the Raven? sorry if its a stupid question xD

but if its the Raven, then u should realise that the Raven is just for support attacks and not used as a main attack, thus u can use the Raven+normal skills for a lot more damage :)

[Kadaj]

Dark Spirit, is that the Raven? sorry if its a stupid question xD

but if its the Raven, then u should realise that the Raven is just for support attacks and not used as a main attack, thus u can use the Raven+normal skills for a lot more damage :)

No..
Dark raven is dark raven.
Dark spirit is the dark lord 3rd quest spell.
SM's have their very useful magic circle spell.
Where as DL's have a weak pathetic excuse of a spell.

[Sparxx]

She Did Have A Point, The 'Dark Raven Spirit' Drops As 'Dark Spirit Spirit' =]
But I Agree, Your A Useless Excuse For A DL Without It Mate ^^ Lol xD

Rawr?

[Esmeralda]

No..
Dark raven is dark raven.
Dark spirit is the dark lord 3rd quest spell.
SM's have their very useful magic circle spell.
Where as DL's have a weak pathetic excuse of a spell.

right ^^ sry, its the bottles of spirit that are called that ^^.... mix up :P

anywho, yea well about the skill, give it some time, let other ppl comment on this too and let Inc look it over again..

[HentaiKing]

isn't it also true that the new season 4 skill of the DL is a multi hitting skill instead of a single hit skill, which also makes it an PvM skill instead of a PvP skill?

[Sparxx]

Either Way The Dmg Is Pathetic No? xD

[HentaiKing]

well if its a Multi Hitting skill its kinda logic for it to be doing lower damage, then a single hit skill, since it targets multiple monsters at the same time instead of just 1.

[Mr_JD]

As hentaiking said this skill is just for lvl,be4 this skill dl dont was able to lvl well and fast like other char,this skill is low dmg but is fast attack rate...

[50cent]

HK is right cuz this skill were not created for PvP, and if u dont like this skill for lvling than dont use it... Everything is alright with the skill, just u people want it to be overpowered :D..

[Sparxx]

Wtf?
Both of You. Mitico (MR_JD) Your An SM So You Have Magic Circle So Dnt Even Start And We Dnt Need YOU Of ALL People To Confirm What HK Has Already Said.

And 50cent, After All The Bitching And Moaning The BK's Did About Magic Circle Being Overpowered You Can Stop Right Now Saying That Everyone Wants To Be Overpowered.
The BK's Trying To Become OP Again Is The Problem, Not Kadaj Saying That His S4 Skill Is Still Underpowered.

How Do You People Not Get That?

[Kadaj]

HK is right cuz this skill were not created for PvP, and if u dont like this skill for lvling than dont use it... Everything is alright with the skill, just u people want it to be overpowered :D..

You and Mitico can get off my thread.
Fireburst hits ALOT more targets than dark spirit.
And it hits more often.
Dark spirit hits every 1-2 seconds.
Fireburst hits 3 times per second.
Dark spirit is absoloutely useless against PVP and lvl'ing up.
So i suggest you shut your mouth Unless you know what your talking about Mitico and Kanye.
You guys NEVER use DL's.
You don't know what it's like.

[Mr_JD]

Wtf?
Both of You. Mitico (MR_JD) Your An SM So You Have Magic Circle So Dnt Even Start And We Dnt Need YOU Of ALL People To Confirm What HK Has Already Said.

And 50cent, After All The Bitching And Moaning The BK's Did About Magic Circle Being Overpowered You Can Stop Right Now Saying That Everyone Wants To Be Overpowered.
The BK's Trying To Become OP Again Is The Problem, Not Kadaj Saying That His S4 Skill Is Still Underpowered.

How Do You People Not Get That?

You and Mitico can get off my thread.
Fireburst hits ALOT more targets than dark spirit.
And it hits more often.
Dark spirit hits every 1-2 seconds.
Fireburst hits 3 times per second.
Dark spirit is absoloutely useless against PVP and lvl'ing up.
So i suggest you shut your mouth Unless you know what your talking about Mitico and Kanye.
You guys NEVER use DL's.
You don't know what it's like.

first of all as i said im not mitico,and second i know that fire brust hit a lot more than dark spirit,but i also know that for fire brust you need a target and you cant hit much monster like how with dark spirit...and with more agility dark spirit will be a lot fater of fire brust for lvl...
and kadaj,dont worry,i had more dl than you,and i know how they work...

[HentaiKing]

You and Mitico can get off my thread.
Fireburst hits ALOT more targets than dark spirit.
And it hits more often.
Dark spirit hits every 1-2 seconds.
Fireburst hits 3 times per second.
Dark spirit is absoloutely useless against PVP and lvl'ing up.
So i suggest you shut your mouth Unless you know what your talking about Mitico and Kanye.
You guys NEVER use DL's.
You don't know what it's like.

First of all you dont make the rules about who can post in who's thread the forum is free for ppl to post their oppinion in aslong as it doesnt break the rules.

2nd fireburst does 3 hits on a single target while the season 4 skill Dark Spirit deals damage too all monsters in its radius right?

first of all as i said im not mitico,and second i know that fire brust hit a lot more than dark spirit,but i also know that for fire brust you need a target and you cant hit much monster like how with dark spirit...and with more agility dark spirit will be a lot fater of fire brust for lvl...
and kadaj,dont worry,i had more dl than you,and i know how they work...

You have no way in knowing if you have more experience in playing with a DL then Kadaj so dont bring something like that up since it will only cause flaming.

[Kadaj]

First of all you dont make the rules about who can post in who's thread the forum is free for ppl to post their oppinion in aslong as it doesnt break the rules.

2nd fireburst does 3 hits on a single target while the season 4 skill Dark Spirit deals damage too all monsters in its radius right?



You have no way in knowing if you have more experience in playing with a DL then Kadaj so dont bring something like that up since it will only cause flaming.

Please quote where i said i make the rules.
Because i clearly didn't.
I just don't want idiotic replies from people who clearly don't like me.
Because there not giving a response to my question, there giving a response to me.
The fact of the matter is a simple spell like fireburst is ten times better than dark spirit.
If you DID know how to work DL's Mitico then you would know this instead of being an arrogant fool.
Dark spirit does NOT hit more times, more damage ORmore enemies
It's weaker in every single way.
I even tested the range and it's the same range as fireburst when mounted on a horse.
It's a completely useless skill.
If you think otherwise then your name is either Mitico or Kanye.

[HentaiKing]

Please quote where i said i make the rules.
Because i clearly didn't.
I just don't want idiotic replies from people who clearly don't like me.
Because there not giving a response to my question, there giving a response to me.
The fact of the matter is a simple spell like fireburst is ten times better than dark spirit.
If you DID know how to work DL's Mitico then you would know this instead of being an arrogant fool.
Dark spirit does NOT hit more times, more damage ORmore enemies
It's weaker in every single way.
I even tested the range and it's the same range as fireburst when mounted on a horse.
It's a completely useless skill.
If you think otherwise then your name is either Mitico or Kanye.


your the one making this personal now as you dont seem to drop a grudge atm. Anyway You've said that those ppl should get out of your thread while you have no right to say so weither their responses are aimed art you or the thread.

Anyway from the screens and movies that i've seen of the skill it deals damage to multiple monsters ( like multi arrow does for an elf ) which would explain why its damage is lower then that of fireburst.

[Kadaj]

your the one making this personal now as you dont seem to drop a grudge atm. Anyway You've said that those ppl should get out of your thread while you have no right to say so weither their responses are aimed art you or the thread.

Anyway from the screens and movies that i've seen of the skill it deals damage to multiple monsters ( like multi arrow does for an elf ) which would explain why its damage is lower then that of fireburst.

Hahaha making this personal? having a grudge?
You have no idea what mitico is like with me ingame.
And once again you're really not listening to what i'm saying.
"Watching videos " and looking at "pictures" isn't enough.
If you where ingame using fireburst to lvl/pvp.
And you changed to dark spirit, you'd see my point.
And considering i've played a DL practicaly all of my MU life i can tell you CLEARLY
that dark spirit is:
- ridiculously underpowerd
- Hits less targets than fireburst
- hits slower than fireburst.

I can't believe you actually mentioned the Elf 3rd spell.
The elf 3rd spell is SO usefull and i'd kick a child for a skill like that.
It does more damage than multishot and hits around the same ammount of targets. but alot more times.
Why would YOU even mention elf 3rd spell? you're proving my point.

Look seriously.
Look at it this way..
Say you rolled an SM on MU, and they where you're favourite.
And you just finished your third quest!
and instead of magic circle your S4spell was Aqua beam
Not even a powerd up aqua beam. just a normal one.
What would you do?
You'd do the exact same as what i'm doing, Ask for what's fair.

[HentaiKing]

Hahaha making this personal? having a grudge?
You have no idea what mitico is like with me ingame.
And once again you're really not listening to what i'm saying.
"Watching videos " and looking at "pictures" isn't enough.
If you where ingame using fireburst to lvl/pvp.
And you changed to dark spirit, you'd see my point.
And considering i've played a DL practicaly all of my MU life i can tell you CLEARLY
that dark spirit is:
- ridiculously underpowerd
- Hits less targets than fireburst
- hits slower than fireburst.

I can't believe you actually mentioned the Elf 3rd spell.
The elf 3rd spell is SO usefull and i'd kick a child for a skill like that.
It does more damage than multishot and hits around the same ammount of targets. but alot more times.
Why would YOU even mention elf 3rd spell? you're proving my point.

Look seriously.
Look at it this way..
Say you rolled an SM on MU, and they where you're favourite.
And you just finished your third quest!
and instead of magic circle your S4spell was Aqua beam
Not even a powerd up aqua beam. just a normal one.
What would you do?
You'd do the exact same as what i'm doing, Ask for what's fair.

:) as i've said you cant let a grudge go even for the sake of an argument over something entirly different.

anywho i'd be all OMG AWESOME SPELL! if i got an aqua beam since aquabeam is awes0me.

i mentioned the elf attack as it was the only i could think of in comparison too that which i was saying.
I dont prove your point at all and neither am i discrediting it either, so far i've only bin trying to figure out what exactly could be the problem, since the DL being underpowered is still an overstatement if Fireburst can do more damage then a BK can do. DL has always bin one of the strongest classes since it got released in terms of damage, in defense however its as breakable as glass. Which is just a DL's playing style.

Btw Multishot isn't all that great either :) half the time it magicly stops hitting enemies all together, but will still take away AG and Mana, it uses so much mana an Agillity elf would now need to stock up on Mana pots in huge quantities just so she wont have to leave a spot and come back to find some1 else there, and heck an elf still gets ksed by any other char with the same amount of resets, since it still has the lowest attack speed of ever other character.

SO again No i wouldn't do exactly the same your doing. ITs a private server there isn't anything fair about the game anymore. All characters are to some limits overpowered.

Also if Mitico is so bad against you in game then take screenshots and get it reported, instead of complaining now without proof.

[Kadaj]

:) as i've said you cant let a grudge go even for the sake of an argument over something entirly different.

anywho i'd be all OMG AWESOME SPELL! if i got an aqua beam since aquabeam is awes0me.

i mentioned the elf attack as it was the only i could think of in comparison too that which i was saying.
I dont prove your point at all and neither am i discrediting it either, so far i've only bin trying to figure out what exactly could be the problem, since the DL being underpowered is still an overstatement if Fireburst can do more damage then a BK can do. DL has always bin one of the strongest classes since it got released in terms of damage, in defense however its as breakable as glass. Which is just a DL's playing style.

Btw Multishot isn't all that great either :) half the time it magicly stops hitting enemies all together, but will still take away AG and Mana, it uses so much mana an Agillity elf would now need to stock up on Mana pots in huge quantities just so she wont have to leave a spot and come back to find some1 else there, and heck an elf still gets ksed by any other char with the same amount of resets, since it still has the lowest attack speed of ever other character.

SO again No i wouldn't do exactly the same your doing. ITs a private server there isn't anything fair about the game anymore. All characters are to some limits overpowered.

Also if Mitico is so bad against you in game then take screenshots and get it reported, instead of complaining now without proof.

There's absoloutely no point replying to anything you just said.
You're going off topic and repeating the same things.
Just forget it.

[HentaiKing]

your bringing in offtopic factors :) and i've replied to those, so far i've only bin saying what i've seen and asking you about the spell, To get an clearer image of your problem with it. And awnsering questions aimed at me.

[Kadaj]

your bringing in offtopic factors :) and i've replied to those, so far i've only bin saying what i've seen and asking you about the spell, To get an clearer image of your problem with it. And awnsering questions aimed at me.

Yeah sure, if you say so.
I just want a damage increase for dark spirit.
That's it, don't want to talka bout anything else.
A FAIR DAMAGE INCREASE.
Nothing more.

[SPAWN]

Yeah sure, if you say so.
I just want a damage increase for dark spirit.
That's it, don't want to talka bout anything else.
A FAIR DAMAGE INCREASE.
Nothing more.

Well that pathetic dark spirit causes dam lags in game. I think the power of that skill is just enough, try to observe bennydl when he uses that skill, he barely gets all the mobs. He can still ks me using that skill despite our big gap in rr. SO i suggest make more rr to appreciate that skill

[50cent]

If Dl uses that skill all game lags and if u are a Bk and DL is using the skill in ur spot, ur skills like TW or RB is not working properly, so the Dl kills all mobs... U got what u want, just look at launcher+update

[Kadaj]

If Dl uses that skill all game lags and if u are a Bk and DL is using the skill in ur spot, ur skills like TW or RB is not working properly, so the Dl kills all mobs... U got what u want, just look at launcher+update

See there's where your wrong.
and there's where you can tell you CLEARLY don't play a DL.
The 15% damage increase changes NOTHING.
I'm not even kidding when is ay this but: It needs a 300% damage increase.
Because it's THAT much weaker than fireburst and other weak DL spells.
And if Dark spirit lagsyour computer then that's not my problem. I have no problem using it.
It lags on my laptop that's all.